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CindySceda

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From: Egypt

Registered: 2019-09-07

Posts: 4

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

A lot of threads on MN lately talk about civility.

Is civility, peace, and harmony possible without Jesus? If not, how is it possible?

Should we try to bring "peace, peace when there is no peace"? Is civility without Christianity even a laudable goal?

Should Christians be concerned with trying to make heathens act more like Christians in terms of civility, peacefulness, and so on? Or should we focus primarily on leading more people into the kingdom?

Helenbax

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From: Egypt

Registered: 2019-09-12

Posts: 3

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

A lot of threads on MN lately talk about civility.

Is civility, peace, and harmony possible without Jesus? If not, how is it possible?

Should we try to bring "peace, peace when there is no peace"? Is civility without Christianity even a laudable goal?

Should Christians be concerned with trying to make heathens act more like Christians in terms of civility, peacefulness, and so on? Or should we focus primarily on leading more people into the kingdom?

Aurorashund

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From: Egypt

Registered: 2019-09-25

Posts: 5

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

A lot of threads on MN lately talk about civility.

Is civility, peace, and harmony possible without Jesus? If not, how is it possible?

Should we try to bring "peace, peace when there is no peace"? Is civility without Christianity even a laudable goal?

Should Christians be concerned with trying to make heathens act more like Christians in terms of civility, peacefulness, and so on? Or should we focus primarily on leading more people into the kingdom?

AlisonescoP

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From: Egypt

Registered: 2019-09-06

Posts: 2

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

A lot of threads on MN lately talk about civility.

Is civility, peace, and harmony possible without Jesus? If not, how is it possible?

Should we try to bring "peace, peace when there is no peace"? Is civility without Christianity even a laudable goal?

Should Christians be concerned with trying to make heathens act more like Christians in terms of civility, peacefulness, and so on? Or should we focus primarily on leading more people into the kingdom?

LedesireEvomo

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From: Россия

Registered: 2018-09-29

Posts: 4

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

That may be true; one can study the intricacies of specific doctrines of Islam the same as the many denominations of Christianity. The point, however, is basic and fundamental; what is the measurement standard of being a true muslim and what is the measurement standard of being a true christian?

Then, who do we find emulating said measurement standards?

Allendiz

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From: new Zealand

Registered: 2020-01-22

Posts: 7

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

why do you find it so hard to actually address the point of the thread?  It is to discuss the similarities between Christian and Islamic beliefs, not to criticise only one side.   When will we see you criticising Christianity, Mmmm?

Douglasquove

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Registered: 2020-01-30

Posts: 3

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

The premise of this OP is selfish, moronic, and ignorant. Because too many Christians are unable to examine themselves and realise that "accepting Jesus" has done nothing to advance world peace for the various cultures that follow Christianity.

The idea that "accepting Jesus" would stop anyone building another temple is also moronic. You can interpret a Christian bible in so many ways that to think it would stop someone building a temple to show just how fucking much they worship their newfound Messiah is to show a profound ignorance of human nature and history.

Douglasquove

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Registered: 2020-01-30

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Re: Jesus and Lucifer

The premise of this OP is selfish, moronic, and ignorant. Because too many Christians are unable to examine themselves and realise that "accepting Jesus" has done nothing to advance world peace for the various cultures that follow Christianity.

The idea that "accepting Jesus" would stop anyone building another temple is also moronic. You can interpret a Christian bible in so many ways that to think it would stop someone building a temple to show just how fucking much they worship their newfound Messiah is to show a profound ignorance of human nature and history.

DamaWer

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From: Россия

Registered: 2019-07-06

Posts: 15

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

In it something is. Earlier I thought differently, many thanks for the information.

RealtyWer

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From: РФ

Registered: 2019-06-26

Posts: 5

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

Muslims don't like any prophet, saint or angel be painted for fun. They always protest it. Even if it be Jesus. I just wonder why some people forment trouble

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KuzenkovIE

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Registered: 2019-03-17

Posts: 8

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

How or why is it that a racist Hitlerian like Pat Robertson can be presented on this forum without objection from the forum's many far right posters?  These are the same ones who call Louis Farrakhan a racist but they have no problem with a Hitlerian like Robertson.  Such hypocrisy

RealtyWer

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From: РФ

Registered: 2019-06-26

Posts: 5

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

Muslims don't like any prophet, saint or angel be painted for fun. They always protest it. Even if it be Jesus. I just wonder why some people forment trouble

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Jamesuanodo

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From: Spain

Registered: 2020-02-14

Posts: 3

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

Philosch:
… see my post on the specific reasoning behind why Jesus is turned into a god and see if it makes sense to you....the post is in this forum and its title is ...Why the Catholic Church turned Jesus into the son of GOD

Allendiz

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From: new Zealand

Registered: 2020-01-22

Posts: 7

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

why do you find it so hard to actually address the point of the thread?  It is to discuss the similarities between Christian and Islamic beliefs, not to criticise only one side.   When will we see you criticising Christianity, Mmmm?

Allendiz

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From: new Zealand

Registered: 2020-01-22

Posts: 7

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

why do you find it so hard to actually address the point of the thread?  It is to discuss the similarities between Christian and Islamic beliefs, not to criticise only one side.   When will we see you criticising Christianity, Mmmm?

Allendiz

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From: new Zealand

Registered: 2020-01-22

Posts: 7

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

why do you find it so hard to actually address the point of the thread?  It is to discuss the similarities between Christian and Islamic beliefs, not to criticise only one side.   When will we see you criticising Christianity, Mmmm?

moriinahka

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From: Россия

Registered: 2020-02-28

Posts: 1

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

Was Jesus real?  Dont know.  Just dont believe all the god stuff, and to me, the Bible is a fictional book written by men.

I do like the point made about his birth....that rather cracked me up.

Great to see read you  again Marnix

and of course the rest of you and Sir Ducky

Allendiz

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From: new Zealand

Registered: 2020-01-22

Posts: 7

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

why do you find it so hard to actually address the point of the thread?  It is to discuss the similarities between Christian and Islamic beliefs, not to criticise only one side.   When will we see you criticising Christianity, Mmmm?

SprinBoarly

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From: Ecuador

Registered: 2019-06-13

Posts: 2

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

Homer.....at this time in my life I believe this sin was unique to those scribes that actually said that Jesus was doing things by Beelzebub.  If I can be shown differently by the word then I am open to correction by the word at all times.

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MMBoarly

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From: Russia

Registered: 2019-07-28

Posts: 1

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

Homer.....at this time in my life I believe this sin was unique to those scribes that actually said that Jesus was doing things by Beelzebub.  If I can be shown differently by the word then I am open to correction by the word at all times.

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TylerOperb

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From: Russia

Registered: 2020-05-20

Posts: 1

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

The short answer is Tribalism. 

The long answer is Tribalism. 

Also, Jesus was not capable of being a Christian because Christianity didnt exist yet.  If he existed and came to Earth now, Jesus would most likely be a Christian, as far as I can tell.

Stephentet

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From: Cape Verde

Registered: 2020-05-28

Posts: 1

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

Servant of the most High God, our Lord Jesus Christ and here too help others the same God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, Moses, Joshia, David, Esther and Mordecai For Christ is my order and God, he sets me into sink And he loves you all And wants you to come to him

Richardthedo

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From: Russia

Registered: 2020-06-30

Posts: 2

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

Some member of this forum said that when the leading figure head in the form of Christ himself endured so much and sacrificed himself,it is expected of his followers to follow his example and make sacrifices,big or small.The cross has become a sacred symbol in this very context.

Now, if that be the case, then the native Amerindians who supposedly sacrificed human beings on an industrial scale either with or without the consent of the victims are in a way following the example set by Jesus. Arent they?

If so , then why are they sneered at and why is it that the sacrifices of the followers of Christ praised high as being those of martyrs?

EugeneTeelm

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From: Russia

Registered: 2020-07-13

Posts: 1

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

What you are seeing is a cultural icon, the churchs and hollywoods view. Jesus was more likely a little hook-nosed, swarthy, mediterranean fella.

FraTok

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From: Russia

Registered: 2020-07-22

Posts: 1

Re: Jesus and Lucifer

Atheist here, actually even as I child I already have a lot of doubts when it comes to religion and up until now I think it is all mumbo jumbo. But I still do respect those who believe what they want to.